Epilepsy Foundation

Hi Everyone,

After sitting in an attourneys office today I learned something.

We are considered "disabled" due to the fact we take medications daily.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I never knew this, and I don't mind being called "disabled".

I guess the way I look at epilepsy and always have is that it comes in degrees.

From mild to severe, to which we are all considered disabled under.

-Amy

 

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Hello Amy,

We too are labeled as "RETARDS").  We may asked for legal advice and the next thing you know (we are giving a pat in the back by our lawyer's saying get a second opinion.  I can relate to this story..........is really not disabled we are considered normal; However not to contradict myself,in higher authority than us with our disabilities due to this (Seizure Disorder) We are labeled As what the Laws and Policies of Doctor's /Cops/Lawyer's /ETC; Been doing for as long as History.  (Epilepsy is a Brain Disorder) with our (Illness/Epileptic Seizure).  

Amy, All I can say is that don't think what and how people in higher authority thinks; makes sense.  In other words, Continue being positive and thinking to yourself I'm "not" disable "I'm Able"  "to do More" than what these Higher in Authority are saying and letting you Know.  

I considered you Amy a Normal Beautiful Woman, with a beautiful family.  DON'T BE SORRY.  

Think Positive and don't let any negativity by these higher in authority make you feel as though You are when YOU ARE NOT.  In other words,  Don't let higher authorities patronize you by these "LAWS"

Amy you will find a way to settle this in court and YOU WILL WIN.  

Stay Safe and Seizure Free 4Ever 

Eugina  : )                                                      

  Hi Amy,

     Every lawyer has their own opinion but I don't consider myself disabled.  I've been taking meds for 40 yrs. and had 2 brain surgeries to better myself but I look at myself as an everyday normal person just like everyone else.  Don't let anyone tell you that you have a disability because you don't.  I look at it this way just because all of us take sz. med doesn't make us disabled if that were the case look at all the people in the world that take med for high blood pressure, diabetes, back pain etc.  Most of these people aren't labeled as disabled so why should people with epilepsy be considered disabled.  I feel the biggest problem is that the world is to quiet about epilepsy and people don't understand it like other medical conditions.

You are a normal everyday woman who can carry on a great life with a wonderful family just like everyone else with epilepsy.  Look at Elton John he's had epilepsy for yrs. and also writer Agatha Christy and Alan Faneca a professional football player. There are many famous people in this world that have epilepsy and they aren't considered disabled and I don't feel any of us are either.  Here's wishing you well and May God Bless You!

                        Sue

 

never heard it explained like that Amy...Interesting.

--Travis

Hi Sue,

The attourney was speakingon what the ADA guide lines state. As we can be labeled disabled. I always took myself as an able bodied person, but now as things have changed as my attourney said, people can be labeled with minor things as disabled...not those of us who have epilepsy or seizures. My attourney said a person taking medication could be considered disabled if the court system wanted to prove it.

I do still consider myself able, but if need be, we actually could be disabled. In the long run, if we needed to do something regarding disability, we could lagitalately be considered that way....and not have to fight for it.

-Amy 
 
Suzanne Porter said:

  Hi Amy,

     Every lawyer has their own opinion but I don't consider myself disabled.  I've been taking meds for 40 yrs. and had 2 brain surgeries to better myself but I look at myself as an everyday normal person just like everyone else.  Don't let anyone tell you that you have a disability because you don't.  I look at it this way just because all of us take sz. med doesn't make us disabled if that were the case look at all the people in the world that take med for high blood pressure, diabetes, back pain etc.  Most of these people aren't labeled as disabled so why should people with epilepsy be considered disabled.  I feel the biggest problem is that the world is to quiet about epilepsy and people don't understand it like other medical conditions.

You are a normal everyday woman who can carry on a great life with a wonderful family just like everyone else with epilepsy.  Look at Elton John he's had epilepsy for yrs. and also writer Agatha Christy and Alan Faneca a professional football player. There are many famous people in this world that have epilepsy and they aren't considered disabled and I don't feel any of us are either.  Here's wishing you well and May God Bless You!

                        Sue

 

Hi Eugina,

I couldn't have had a more compassionate attourney...towards all of us. When I went in to his office I placed my Epilepsy USA magazine I was featured in on his desk and he knew I was there for everyone when he heard the compassion in my voice to where we need to be treated equal in the work place.

I won't lie, I broke down when the attourney said I had no case...for us. Then later said I was disabled, which didn't bother me as I feel hopefully I will be able to open more doors in the future with it. Don't ever think I will put that I haveepilepsy on a job application. If they choose to ask me I am an open book, but not unless they ask.

The attourny gave me another attourneis name to call for a 2nd opinion. I felt this made the attourney I say a great one as well. He was hoping a free consultation as Ican't afford to fight through consultations.

Thanks so much for the support and stay seizure free.

-Amy
 
Eugina G Herrera said:

Hello Amy,

We too are labeled as "RETARDS").  We may asked for legal advice and the next thing you know (we are giving a pat in the back by our lawyer's saying get a second opinion.  I can relate to this story..........is really not disabled we are considered normal; However not to contradict myself,in higher authority than us with our disabilities due to this (Seizure Disorder) We are labeled As what the Laws and Policies of Doctor's /Cops/Lawyer's /ETC; Been doing for as long as History.  (Epilepsy is a Brain Disorder) with our (Illness/Epileptic Seizure).  

Amy, All I can say is that don't think what and how people in higher authority thinks; makes sense.  In other words, Continue being positive and thinking to yourself I'm "not" disable "I'm Able"  "to do More" than what these Higher in Authority are saying and letting you Know.  

I considered you Amy a Normal Beautiful Woman, with a beautiful family.  DON'T BE SORRY.  

Think Positive and don't let any negativity by these higher in authority make you feel as though You are when YOU ARE NOT.  In other words,  Don't let higher authorities patronize you by these "LAWS"

Amy you will find a way to settle this in court and YOU WILL WIN.  

Stay Safe and Seizure Free 4Ever 

Eugina  : )                                                      

Hello Amy How long have this case been open?  How many years have you (been fighting this with IBM?

I believe Amy that you should when filling out an application (Epilepsy.    The reason at work front; You won't be able in the near future to sue them(work force/any bookings, in other words,  Whom you are working for,  ( because you decided not to write that you have Epilepsy.   G-d forbid something would happen to you Amy while you are working than of course you want to sue for any incident(s).  Understand Amy.  So my whole point is I really believe that everyone with "e" should write down on their application that they have "e" for their safety.  

Anyway,  Is there a chat somewhere around here for that we can chat, I would like that very much.

Stay Safe and Seizure Free 4Ever

Eugina  : ) 

4generations said:

Hi Eugina,

I couldn't have had a more compassionate attourney...towards all of us. When I went in to his office I placed my Epilepsy USA magazine I was featured in on his desk and he knew I was there for everyone when he heard the compassion in my voice to where we need to be treated equal in the work place.

I won't lie, I broke down when the attourney said I had no case...for us. Then later said I was disabled, which didn't bother me as I feel hopefully I will be able to open more doors in the future with it. Don't ever think I will put that I haveepilepsy on a job application. If they choose to ask me I am an open book, but not unless they ask.

The attourny gave me another attourneis name to call for a 2nd opinion. I felt this made the attourney I say a great one as well. He was hoping a free consultation as Ican't afford to fight through consultations.

Thanks so much for the support and stay seizure free.

-Amy
 
Eugina G Herrera said:

Hello Amy,

We too are labeled as "RETARDS").  We may asked for legal advice and the next thing you know (we are giving a pat in the back by our lawyer's saying get a second opinion.  I can relate to this story..........is really not disabled we are considered normal; However not to contradict myself,in higher authority than us with our disabilities due to this (Seizure Disorder) We are labeled As what the Laws and Policies of Doctor's /Cops/Lawyer's /ETC; Been doing for as long as History.  (Epilepsy is a Brain Disorder) with our (Illness/Epileptic Seizure).  

Amy, All I can say is that don't think what and how people in higher authority thinks; makes sense.  In other words, Continue being positive and thinking to yourself I'm "not" disable "I'm Able"  "to do More" than what these Higher in Authority are saying and letting you Know.  

I considered you Amy a Normal Beautiful Woman, with a beautiful family.  DON'T BE SORRY.  

Think Positive and don't let any negativity by these higher in authority make you feel as though You are when YOU ARE NOT.  In other words,  Don't let higher authorities patronize you by these "LAWS"

Amy you will find a way to settle this in court and YOU WILL WIN.  

Stay Safe and Seizure Free 4Ever 

Eugina  : )                                                      

The way I lookat things as I have been let go from Lockheed in 1988 after having a seizure at work, and now this email mess with IBM. Corperations justare not understanding to which is why the law states we don't have to give info when applying for the job. I didn't and I was hired at IBM...now they don't want me.

Just because I didn't win a major lawsuit doesn't state I can't hold interdepartmental emails showing how they treat their employees to persons when or if I feel the need. Remember freedom of speach. It also doesn't mean I won't head to the news media with papers inhand. Hummmm, this may just make IBM serve me with gag paperwork via their attourney to keep me quiet. Not sure I would take it though. If you all remember, the advocate inmesays protect us all.

-Amy
 
Eugina G Herrera said:

Hello Amy How long have this case been open?  How many years have you (been fighting this with IBM?

I believe Amy that you should when filling out an application (Epilepsy.    The reason at work front; You won't be able in the near future to sue them(work force/any bookings, in other words,  Whom you are working for,  ( because you decided not to write that you have Epilepsy.   G-d forbid something would happen to you Amy while you are working than of course you want to sue for any incident(s).  Understand Amy.  So my whole point is I really believe that everyone with "e" should write down on their application that they have "e" for their safety.  

Anyway,  Is there a chat somewhere around here for that we can chat, I would like that very much.

Stay Safe and Seizure Free 4Ever

Eugina  : ) 

4generations said:

Hi Eugina,

I couldn't have had a more compassionate attourney...towards all of us. When I went in to his office I placed my Epilepsy USA magazine I was featured in on his desk and he knew I was there for everyone when he heard the compassion in my voice to where we need to be treated equal in the work place.

I won't lie, I broke down when the attourney said I had no case...for us. Then later said I was disabled, which didn't bother me as I feel hopefully I will be able to open more doors in the future with it. Don't ever think I will put that I haveepilepsy on a job application. If they choose to ask me I am an open book, but not unless they ask.

The attourny gave me another attourneis name to call for a 2nd opinion. I felt this made the attourney I say a great one as well. He was hoping a free consultation as Ican't afford to fight through consultations.

Thanks so much for the support and stay seizure free.

-Amy
 
Eugina G Herrera said:

Hello Amy,

We too are labeled as "RETARDS").  We may asked for legal advice and the next thing you know (we are giving a pat in the back by our lawyer's saying get a second opinion.  I can relate to this story..........is really not disabled we are considered normal; However not to contradict myself,in higher authority than us with our disabilities due to this (Seizure Disorder) We are labeled As what the Laws and Policies of Doctor's /Cops/Lawyer's /ETC; Been doing for as long as History.  (Epilepsy is a Brain Disorder) with our (Illness/Epileptic Seizure).  

Amy, All I can say is that don't think what and how people in higher authority thinks; makes sense.  In other words, Continue being positive and thinking to yourself I'm "not" disable "I'm Able"  "to do More" than what these Higher in Authority are saying and letting you Know.  

I considered you Amy a Normal Beautiful Woman, with a beautiful family.  DON'T BE SORRY.  

Think Positive and don't let any negativity by these higher in authority make you feel as though You are when YOU ARE NOT.  In other words,  Don't let higher authorities patronize you by these "LAWS"

Amy you will find a way to settle this in court and YOU WILL WIN.  

Stay Safe and Seizure Free 4Ever 

Eugina  : )                                                      

You may want to read the EEOC Final Rule Implementing the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) Amendments Act of 2008 available at:

 

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/regulations/

 

While the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 went into effect in January 2009, full implementation of the Act did not occur until the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) published its final rule on March 25, 2011.  At the website you will find the full text of the rule and, what may me more helpful, a short summary and a section on questions and answers.  The amendments helped to clarify that epilepsy is a disability covered under the Act in areas such as accommodation and employment.

"RETARDS"?!? You have a lot of personal/historic issues you have to deal with before offering advice. 4Generations, a disability is something that interrupts your daily routine, that you have to change/make accomodations for to carry on your life. We all take meds, so that's not a parameter. But, do you take/need meds to get through the day; so you don't have seizures? Does epilepsy stop you from thinking, remembering, driving, etc.? If epilepsy stops you from doing something that everyone else is able to do, then it's a disability. But if you're just chugging along living life to the fullest, then a disability tag is useless.

Allen -

Yes - we are even labeled as "Liars" and "Unreliable Witnesses" because we have Epilepsy and to the fact we take medication - so Amy's right on the button and the domino reaction just comes toppling down ... I've been called all of that plus what I've typed and then some which if I did post ... I would be forever banned on the face of this earth and yet ... it is perfectly fine for a normal human being to call us that?

Suit yourself on figuring that out ... it is demeaning, degrading, insinuating, insulting, as well as revelation of where their own IQ level stands (my son states the latter part that way because it angers him to hear people - regardless of who they are whether regular common or professionals). I used to scold my son for that; but he really meant what he said, over the years, now a married man - still says it and means it, and means it very well .... I saved the best part of this for last!  :)

The same applies to you.

Allen Rossner said:

"RETARDS"?!? You have a lot of personal/historic issues you have to deal with before offering advice. 4Generations, a disability is something that interrupts your daily routine, that you have to change/make accomodations for to carry on your life. We all take meds, so that's not a parameter. But, do you take/need meds to get through the day; so you don't have seizures? Does epilepsy stop you from thinking, remembering, driving, etc.? If epilepsy stops you from doing something that everyone else is able to do, then it's a disability. But if you're just chugging along living life to the fullest, then a disability tag is useless.

Why are you apologizing for calling me names? You branded me a hypocrite, it's too late to apologize...cause that makes you a hypocrite as well.

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